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Maj William Gilbert Banthorpe, aged 82 on 19
Oct 2000. Gilly, as he was universally known, was a
remarkable man, serving continuously in uniform for 57
years from his joining the TA in 1939 until his
retirement as PMC Norfolk Army Cadets in 1996.
Born on 15 Jan 1918 he joined the 4th Bn TA in Mar 1939
and trained on Mortars. Gilly was called up in Sep 1939
and reported on his motor cycle. The motor cycle was
requisitioned (for some small recompense) and he never
saw it again. Gilly spent the war years mainly at
Britannia Barracks as a Weapons Training Instructor with
No 2 ITC.
He and the late
'Dot' Tunaley were instructors to the
first intake and taught them to ride bicycles and to use
a pickaxe by numbers. Some lads were not too hot on
differentiating between left and right but Gilbert had
the solution. A wisp of hay was tied to one boot and a
piece of straw to the other. 'I will now teach you how
to salute to the straw.'
In the evenings Major
Hubert Holden MC would say: 'Let's
go for a walk.' A shotgun would be produced and Major
Holden always let Gilly have the first two shots.
B&C 86 Jun 96 quoted from the Aug 1946 Britannia No
28: No 2 Infantry Training Centre at Britannia Barracks
reported that a few old sweats were soldiering on: WO2
Gilly Banthorpe was still in the CSM's chair at HQ Coy.
On Sport 'We feel we must mention the severe casualties
suffered by the rabbits at a certain place called
Stanford Battle Area. For further details ask Major
Hubert Holden, Lt EE `Mucky' Mayes (the WTO), any member
of the Weapon Training Staff or certain unscrupulous
persons in No 2 Coy, No 2 ITC.' |
Gilly was extraordinarily accurate
in re-telling his stories and they never varied but the
report above omits the pheasants hidden under the
rabbits!
He was on a pre-war Mortar course with 4 R Norfolk
Officer Capt William
Gaymer. Gilly ran short of cash and was
loaned £1 by William, quite against the rules! For many
months Gilly hid whenever William appeared, not having
the liquidity to refund the loan. One day Gilly could
not escape their meeting and William summoned:
'Banthorpe - a word!'
Gilly quickly said: 'If it's about that £1 Sir ...'
'No. Never mind about that. It was a gift.'
Thereafter, Gilly could not speak more highly of
William!
Lt Col
George
Winter commanded
No 9 PTC at The Barracks in 1947 and Gilly recalled: 'If
his Routine Orders mentioned litter we knew he would be
on the warpath. Lt Col George H Winter
would go round the barracks and if he found a fag packet
under a bush he would date and initial it then hide it
again. Then in the morning you, as Company Sergeant
Major, would accompany him, again checking for litter.
Of course, he knew where he had hidden the empty packet
of Woodbines and if it was still there you got a right
roasting!' The late Maj Sam Hornor added to the tale:
'Anyone subsequently coming across litter just added
their own initials and put it back.' History does not
relate exactly how this little game ended!
Gilly was always fascinated by the fire pumps at
Britannia Barracks and often managed to extend the Fire
Practice to half an hour. With the crew, he was always
amazed at how much fuel they used!
The stocks of rabbit, pheasant, woodcock and partridge
on the Stanford Battle Area were so plentiful and
petrol, despite rationing, so easily obtained for the
Camp vehicle, Gilly avoided being demobilised until
1951, the first of his three extensions, Regular, TA and
ACF.
In 1946 Gilly was promoted WO2 and posted to The Essex
Regt in Colchester with the late Lt EE `Mucky' Mayes. In
1951 he returned to his pre-war employment with the Gas
Board, re-joined the 4th Bn TA as a CSgt and had more
success with shooting. Gilly was always a man quick of
the mark. The Coy returned to Thorpe Station and Capt
William Gaymer summoned Gilbert. 'Banthorpe - I am going
to march with the Coy back to the drill hall. Take my
car will you.' Gilbert not only had time to drop off his
kit at home but have a haircut before the Captain
arrived on foot.
When HM King George VI died at Sandringham in Feb 1952,
4 Royal Norfolk provided a Guard of Honour at Wolferton
Station. The black draped King's Colour of the Bn was
carried by Lt (later Col) Paul Raywood and SNCOs on
parade included Fred Ayers (later Maj), Alex Barr and
Gilly.
By 1955 Gilly was CSM Support Coy with CO Lt Col
Mike
Braithwaite, Adjt Maj
Brian E Dillon MBE, RQMS
Fred
Ayers, OC B Maj
ET Cary-Elwes TD, OC C Maj John H
Howard, OC D Maj
Cyril B Grant MC, OC HQ Maj
Sam Hornor
and CSM HQ Coy Alex Barr.
(Postscript Oct 08: Only Alex Barr survives.)
At Bromeswell Range in 1957 at the Brigade Rifle Meeting
the 4th Bn team won the LMG pairs cup; Gilly again a
master at shooting with Percy Hewitt and
Alex Barr.
In 1959 Lt Col Dick Flower commanded 4 R Norfolk, OC Sp
Coy was Maj Paul Raywood and CSM Support Coy was Gilly.
He was also the Weapon Training Warrant Officer and in
1960 Gilly had the pleasure of seeing son
Gerry
Banthorpe win the Individual Young Soldiers' Competition
in the 161 Bde Rifle Meeting. Gilly did credit to
himself by coming 3rd in the LMG shoot.
At the Presentation of New Colours in 1963 by HRH The
Princess Margaret, Gilly, with CSgt
J Watson,
was Escort to the Old Colours, carried by Lt
Pat Darley
and 2Lt PJ
Clarke.
After an extension of service (No 2) with the TA he
transferred to the ACF after the cutback in 1968 and
became a Coy Commander.
At the age of 65, ACF retirement age caught up with him
in 1983. But the County Executive Officer, Maj
Tim
Chatting, indicated that ACF Regulations permitted the
holding of a PMC, unpaid, provided he was of Field rank.
And so Extension No 3 came to pass.
Gilly performed his last official duty as PMC at ACF
Annual Camp at Cwrt-Y-Gollen, Crickhowell in Aug 1996
when he retired again after 57 years in uniform at the
age of 78, handing over to Capt
Roy Ames. There were no
more extensions!
In retirement from the Gas Board, Gilly was instrumental
in the setting up of the Gas Museum at Fakenham and this
stands as a memorial and testament to his tenacity,
enthusiasm and sheer hard work. He was also a familiar
face in a white coat in his other capacity as a caterer
at Norfolk Regimental Dinners and Reunions.
A founder member and for many years our Welfare and
Entertainments Officer, Gilly was a regular attender at
Norwich and District Branch Meetings of the Royal
Norfolk and Royal Anglian Regimental Association and
wrote the piece for the B&C. He missed, through
illness, for the first time ever, the Regimental
Association Dinner in Sep 2000.
There was standing room only at his funeral service at St Faith's
Crematorium on Thu 26 Oct, conducted by Revd
Jonathan Boston,
Senior Padre to Norfolk ACF. A Guard of Honour was composed of Norwich
Branch members. The Norwich and District Branch Standard of the Royal
Norfolk and Royal Anglian Regimental Association, black draped and carried
by Paul Boxall, attended the coffin,
on which rested Gilly's No 1 hat bearing a Royal Norfolk
cap badge. Gilly's son Gerry paid tribute to his father 'Jack The Lad' as a
young man and 'Jack The Lad' in his later years when his grand-children took
him out. The Last Post was sounded for Gilly by Edmund Bacon. Many of those
listed above were in attendance, including, from Norfolk ACF, County Comdt
Col Mike Mizen, Trg Offr Maj
John
Doughty, OC CNE Bty Maj
Chris Wilkinson,
Capt Sue Pratt
MBE, Maj John L
Raybould TD and
Ben Turner.
Gilly touched and influenced for good the lives of
countless people who are richer for knowing him.
He had a fund of stories, thankfully recorded. A true
son of the Regiment. We will miss him.
His wife Dot pre-deceased him and he is survived by his
son Gerald, 2 granddaughters, 2 great grandsons (one
named William after him) and one great granddaughter.
JLR
With
grateful acknowledgement to Maj Bob Godfrey MC BA for
permission to quote from 'History of the Royal Norfolk
Regiment 1951-1969' |
In Nov 1996 Gilly was to be 'Dined
Out' from Norfolk ACF. The Webmaster was not then
officially 'on the books' of Norfolk ACF but it is often
crucial to be able to say 'I was there' and the occasion
of Gilly's dining out was not to be missed. So the
Webmaster took the liberty of inviting himself to that
splendid evening in November. Sadly, Gilly was taken ill
during the dinner and admitted to hospital, missing a
tribute in the form of a speech from Lt Col Mike
Mizen and the presentation of gifts arising from a
collection at Crickhowell Camp that summer. Later, as
Issue 88 of the Britannia and Castle, Jun 97, recalls:
'In hospital the Norfolk Editor was on his fifth page of
notes on Gilly's reminiscences when Gilly asked the
nurse for a drink. 'You haven’t got time to drink Mr
Banthorpe - you don’t stop talking!'
One of the tales was about Grass
Cutting. 'It was 1947 and Col George H Winter
commanded No 9 PTC. Gilly was in the Coy Office with
clerk LCpl
Watling, when Col
Winter arrived.
'Stool!' he ordered. An ammunition box was produced for
inspection of the lampshade. 'This is 1940 flys*** - the
place is filthy.' LCpl
Watling was ordered at noon to
cut the small patch of grass outside the office with a
knife by the evening. His family ran Wells taxis so the
resourceful LCpl ordered a taxi, went home, collected a
lawnmower and in 3 pushes had cut the grass!'
The Norfolk
Editor called in to see Gilly at home shortly
before he died and was shocked to see how frail this
former giant of a man in voice and deed had become.
However, he was in good form, quite lucid, and insisted
on getting out the teapot.
An interesting fact, quite unrelated to anything
military, is that Gilly, 82 years old, had an aspidistra
plant. I gave it some water and he told me it was his
mother's plant and older than he! |