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16th/5th Queens Royal Lancers, Yan Voss, sought Bandsman Neil Smith   B Coy Skullduggery at Shorncliffe in 1983   BFA definition requested Buckingham Palace raise a query   Colin Scrivener son in law of Walter Leeks d 1936 seeks information on Walter   Comrades in Arms Reunited    CSgt Varley, Annie Price, Cindy Buxton and Felicity Leicester at Bodney Camp 1982   Courteous ambush commander by Capt Felicity Leicester TD
FEPOWs Don Burnham, Popeye Clark, Darkie Garnham and Bill Perry   Fire!  by Ben Turner   Fire! by Norfolk Editor   James A Steel 1 E Anglian   James Roland Gregory   Oss Osborne   Pusan and Maurice Bell   Query ref Raymond Hewitt BEM 1 E ANGLIAN   Stand Out Memories of 6 R Anglian at Shorncliffe in 1983 by Maj David Reed TD VRSM Simon Collins of The Poachers   Tony Amis   Well done yew, thars good!   Pathe film or photographs of the Empire Orwell wanted   Young May Moon James Young and Col Osborne

BEN TURNER
Ben Turner was PSI to A (Royal Norfolk) Coy, 6 Royal Anglian, when the webmaster joined the Bn in May 1973. Further to the Webmaster's tale of setting fire to his pocket at Okehampton in 1973 here's Ben's recollection of Sennybridge 1974.
During a double 'drill period', the good old 'About turn on the march', I gave the recruits, a quick 'fag break' mid way through the period. A loud shout from me, "Fags out, Get Fell In", prompted a quick stubbing out of cigarettes and a rush to 'Fall -In'.
The squad had only marched a few paces when I could smell burning. Suddenly, there was a yell and a scream and we witnessed a recruit trampling on his beret and trying to extinguish singeing hair with both his hands at the same time.
(If you can recall the name of the recruit please e-mail it to the Norfolk Editor)

A POCKET FIRE!
Not long after the Norfolk Editor set fire to his pocket at Okehampton in 1973 another jacket pocket caught fire. Soon after the school mid-afternoon break, I'd smelled burning but assumed it was Peter in the classroom next door, in our draughty Victorian School, doing some Science. It was a pupil who alerted me with the familiar words: 'Your pocket is on fire, Sir!'
Thereafter I never placed a warm pipe in my jacket pocket! It was a sound and fusty Harris Tweed, long since consigned to the bin via a spell as a bed for the cats, as it made me look too much like a schoolmaster!

PUSAN AND MAURICE BELL
Peter Dearsley in Suffolk read the masterful and moving article on this site from B&C 93 Dec 99 Korean Odyssey 1999 by DJ Jerry Willmott CBE QFSM and wrote:
"I am researching the War Memorial on which my grandfather (a WW1 Norfolks casualty) is commemorated with a view to producing a Roll of Honour.
Although the memorials were erected to commemorate the fallen of WW1, names have since been added of those who died in later conflicts. One so remembered is Maurice Bell of the Royal Norfolks who is buried in the UN Memorial cemetery in Pusan, Korea.
In search for information on Pusan, I came across the B&C article written by Jerry Willmott giving a moving account of a return to Korea in 1999. I would like permission to use some of the material from that article in producing the Roll of Honour and would therefore ask if you could either supply an address for Jerry Willmott or pass on this request to him, please.
Acknowledgement would be made of the source of any material used.
Further, if anyone has any information on Maurice Bell or photographs of his grave, then this too would be much appreciated. I know only that he died on 27th June 1952, aged 19. Whether this was a result of accident, disease or enemy action I do not know.
"
Jerry Willmott holds the Intellectual Property Rights to the article so his permission has been sought.
Can anyone tell us more about Maurice Bell and do you have a photograph of his grave for Peter Dearsley?

22477716 Pte Maurice A Bell is listed in The Roll of Honour on p 134 of "History of the Royal Norfolk Regiment 1951-1969 Volume IV" ISBN 0 9521770 0 5. Published in 1993, the book, by Maj Bob Godfrey MC BA, can be purchased from the Regimental Association, Britannia House, TA Centre, 325 Aylsham Road, NORWICH, NR3 2AD, Tel 01603 400290, at £8.50, incl postage and packing.
Pte Bell is also mentioned in Issue 40, Nov 1952, of 'Britannia', in the Roll of Honour on p11 and a report of the minefield incident in which he died is on p6 and p14.

Please e-mail anything you have to the Norfolk Editor.

Webmaster comment: See Korea Revisited 2002 by Bill Buller which offered a photograph of the grave of Maurice ABell.

SIMON COLLINS - POACHER
Simon Collins
webmaster@royalanglian.com
You might be interested in having a look at my site www.royalanglian.com where Past and Present members of the Royal Anglian Regiment keep in touch.
Like your site, all the best.
Webmaster: Thanks and your site is a most welcome Regimental addition.
BANDSMAN NEIL SMITH
Andrew Evans
writes from Coltishall, Norfolk:
'24748918 Bdsm Neil Smith 2 RANGLIAN formerly of Thurlton married Nicola Mayes just after the Gulf War. A good friend was Nicola's bridesmaid. Neil and Nicola have moved from Thurlton and the bridesmaid would like to regain contact.'
Andrew Evans collects everything concerning the IXth Foot, Norfolk, Royal Norfolk and Royal Anglian Regt from the day of their formation to tomorrow! His credentials are impeccable. He spoke to this Webmaster's Watton Rotary Club and instead of my fellow Rotarians (described by former 1080 District Governor John King as ' Geriatric Hooligans' - with the exception, of course, of this Webmaster!) making a hasty departure after the Final Toast, normally around 2200 hrs, the majority stayed well beyond 2300 hrs to talk to Andrew and look at a small sample of his extensive collection.
Please e-mail anything you know about Bdsm Neil Smith to the Norfolk Editor.

SHORNCLIFFE CAMP 1983
Maj David Reed TD VRSM, former OC D Cambridgeshire Coy, 6 RANGLIAN, wrote in B&C 97 Dec 01 about Foggy Oakington 1973.
He now recalls Shorncliffe Camp in 1983.
Further to my last correspondence, I seem to have a couple of other reminiscences, both go back to Shorncliffe Camp, in 1983 I think.
1. B Coy Skullduggery. Numbers were a bit short at camp that year, as the CO, Lt Col David James, had decreed that courses were the thingand so many soldiers had no leave left to attend camp that year. Anyway, it fell to me as OC to lead one of the Gaza Cup teams.
As I was pretty fit (for my age) and could map read, I thought I stood a pretty good chance of winning. However, I had not counted on an undercover agent in the form of a certain sergeant from B (Bedford) Coy. This particular SNCO could run like the wind, but could not read a map to save his life! I knew that because he competed in an orienteering competition with me and managed to finish last having covered most of Thetford Forest about three times!
This SNCO was going to lead one of B Coy's teams in the competition.
Came the day, we all trooped down to Lydd Ranges and the competition began.
Anyone who knows the area well will know that it is particularly featureless, has little or no contour lines and is covered in shingle.
Most teams were therefore running carefully on compass bearings, but not this B Coy SNCO. Whenever he and his team were spotted, he was running at speed, no compass and his map carefully tucked in his back pocket. Needless to say, his team won by a mile.
After the event, my curiosity got the better of me and after a little research, I found that this SNCO had spent all week on the range and had more than likely 'helped' to set the course!
Suspicious? Me?
Comment by Webmaster: I was a DS for that competition and can confirm David's suspicions. What say you, Maj (now Lt Col Alan Fairless and Coy 2IC Maj Alan Spearing?)
In Apr 03, John Whatley, then CSM B Coy, refuted these libellous (or is it scandalous?) allegations.
Click here for his statement.

2. Stand Out Memories of 6 R Anglian at Shorncliffe in 1983 The second anecdote refers to an assault course competition held at the same camp. In one of the HQ Coy teams was a certain red haired, pneumatic young female officer cadet. This was well before the days of sports bras and so her progress along the course was followed with more than a little interest by the avid spectators. (Where was the Webmaster? )
All this came to a climax at the 12 foot wall. By this time, the young lady was absolutely pooped, with the colour of her face matching that of her hair. Guessing what was coming, a large throng of spectators had by now collected on the 'home' side of the wall.
The team leader had decided on a plan which involved all the team apart from the OCdt and 2 others, taking themselves and their rifles over the wall. The 2 men would then shove the OCdt to the top of the wall and she would then roll over the top and down the other side.
Unfortunately, this did not happen. The crowd was treated to the sight of a red mop of hair with a red face slowly rising above the top of the wall. This was closely followed by straining arms and then a quivering chest.
Suddenly, her arms gave way and she slid back down, her chest jammed down on the top of the wall with her head neatly dividing her bosoms! A gasp arose from the crowd and the team leader dropped the pile of rifles he was holding into the sand.
Much of that camp was a bit of a blur to me, but certain things really stood out!
Comment by Webmaster: I had only recently handed over HQ (Suffolk) Coy and was OC A Coy at Shorncliffe in 1983. I can't exactly recall your 'pneumatic young female officer cadet' but Capt Felicity Bowden mentions Angie Caulder who was there and I think she was a red-head.
But maybe someone who was there at The Wall knows differently? Can anyone tell us more?

Please e-mail anything you know about this 'pneumatic young female officer cadet' to the Norfolk Editor.

In Apr 03, John Whatley, in 1983 CSM B Coy, confirmed it was indeed Angie Caulder!
Click here for his confirmation and see 6 R Anglian archives.

Capt Felicity Leicester TD as an OCdt in the 1980sCOURTEOUS AMBUSH COMMANDER
Capt Felicity Leicester TD recalls when the ratio of male/female in 6 RANGLIAN was very different.
The courtesy of one ambush platoon impressed me greatly.
It was an absolutely freezing night, in the days when for some reason only the men were issued thermal underwear. "Girls - bad luck - you are just girls."
The only warm underclothes I could find when packing were bright yellow PJs - not quite as camouflaged as the military issue.
I hopped out of my trench to water the plants, hidden behind a bush so no problems.
While returning to the trench we were ambushed!!
I was politely told afterwards that they were all watching, but thought it nicer to delay the attack.
Thank goodness it was a VERY dark night and thank you to the ambush commander!

And see 6 R Anglian archives.

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AT WHAT IS FELICITY LOOKING ?
Above right is a photograph of OCdt Felicity Leicester, taken at Bodney Camp in 1982.
Click here for Felicity 20 years later!
Col David James OBE was the CO and this Webmaster was OC HQ Coy - next to being IO the best skive in the Bn!
We were honoured with a visit from Annie Price and Cindy Buxton of Falklands fame, see right.
What this Webmaster would like to know, 20 years on, is: "What is the document causing the amusement?"
Could it be a premonition of the CO 20 years on? Click here to check!

CSgt Varley (HQ Coy Mortar Pl PSI), Annie, Cindy and Felicity
CSgt Varley (HQ Coy Mortar Pl PSI),
Annie, Cindy and Felicity

Click photograph to enlarge

Maj John Denny requested 'Young May Moon'.
Click to hear the old Regimental March 'Young May Moon'
John's e-mail response to this tune being added to this site was: 'Well done yew, thars good!'
Click here for the reason for John's request.
DEFINITION FOR 'BFA' REQUIRED
Not Blank Firing Attachment!
An appeal was received for a definition for 'BFA' from Col Charles Thomas TD DL. Col Charles commanded 6 RANGLIAN, is President of The 6 RANGLIAN Officers' Dinner Club and so is far to young (like this Webmaster!) to know.
He wrote: 'Serious question. Apropos the WWII Army, and not referring to Blank Firing Attachments, do you know what "BFA" stands for? British Forces A................? I have no idea what theatre, nor do I have any other references to work from, although there are some reference books to refer to. So far no luck.' Any ideas?
DEFINITION FOR 'BFA' PROVIDED
Paul Boxall
provided an answer: 'The glossary at janes.com suggests (as well as the 'blank firing attachment') 'Battlefield Functional Area' although I don't know whether this definition would work in the context you need.'
Thanks Paul.

FROM BUCKINGHAM PALACE
Came a query by e-mail - no, nothing to do with that disgraceful Bowler Hat !
JAMES ROLAND GREGORY
Mark Gregory seeks information about his late grandfather, James Roland Gregory, known as John. His obituary was in B&C 88 Jun 97. With the 6th Bn in the Middle East and Malaya, John was a FEPOW 1942-5 and did a tape recording for the Imperial War museum.
If you can help, write to him via the Norfolk Section Editor.

This appeal is repeated on the 'Did You Know These of The Ninth' page.

FEPOWS Bert Bourner, Cyril Clark, Popeye Clark, Arthur Collingwood, Darkie Garnham and Bill Perry
From Richard M Toombs, Chief Petty Officer, US Navy (Retired), Spokane, Washington browndal@seniorglobe.org
'In searching the web I found your B&C obits information on FEPOW members. I have a friend in Tilney St Lawrence, who was a member of the 5th Royal Norfolk Regiment and I am working with him to locate several friends from his days as a POW.
Don Burnham mentioned he was a member of the Southend FEPOW Group but I am unable to locate the group on the web. Don's sister and husband are very close friends of ours and my wife and I were able to meet Don in Sep 2001 while visiting the village of my ancestors near Wisbech.
I am wondering if you may have some leads as to where to look for them.
The names are: Bill Perry, Darkie Garnham and Popeye Clark, all from Norfolk. Don Burnham is 85 years old and very active. I hope to save his story for others to read and honor him. Any assistance will be of great help.
Please feel free to forward my e-mail address - browndal@seniorglobe.org - to anyone who may help.'

The Webmaster contacted Maj Tom Eaton and he informed Cyril Ramsey, 5th B FEPOW 1942-45 of Norwich who provided a Norwich postal address and tel no for PJF 'Popeye' Clark !

Sadly, there is a 5 R Norfolk soldier listed as a casualty in Arthur Lane's 'When You Go Home' that may be Bill Perry - LCpl Charles William Perry 5776964.

Other names and home areas of those of his mates that Don remembers are: Arthur Collingwood from East London, Bert Bourner from South Mimms and Cyril Clark from Leicester. Don does not know if any or all of them survived.
None of those are listed as casualties.

Can anyone help Richard with any leads? Please copy any information to the Norfolk Section Editor.

This appeal is repeated on the 'Did You Know These of The Ninth' page.

Afternote from Webmaster Dec 05: William Collingwood advised that Arthur Collingwood has died.

Rhodesian born Yan Voss, former 16th/5th Queens Royal Lancers, is sought.
Gail Campbell, District Welfare Co-ordinator for The Royal British Legion in Germany, wrote
I have been asked to find Yan Voss, who served with the 16th/5th Queens Royal Lancers. He was possibly born in Rhodesia.
Trying to find a web-site that would be helpful to me yours was the only one that looks to me to be of any use.
On discharge from the British Army he lived and worked in Addis Ababa in c1964.
If you can offer any help in this matter it would be greatly appreciated.

Webmaster: What a compliment! The query was despatched by e-mail to our Royal Anglian Regimental Secretary, Lt Col Peter Dixon OBE, in Bury St Edmunds. Within 6 hours back came a most helpful lead:
Queen's Royal Lancers Regiment Association, Cold Harbour House, Prince William of Gloucester Barracks, Grantham, Lincs
NG31 7TS. Tel: (44) 115 957 3252 or (4) 115 957 3195.
Thank you Colonel.

COMRADES IN ARMS REUNITED
Ian Smith
RADC wrote: I run two web sites to help old friends contact each other..
www.exrugbyplayersreunited for former rugby players and www.exfootballers-reunited.com for ex soccer players
Friends were trying to get in touch with old friends from their days in the armed forces, and all the sites they looked at didn't help them find who they were looking for, because of the way they were set up.
Comrades in Arms ReunitedI have opened a website www.comrades-in-arms-reunited.com, specifically designed to make searching easy.
Early responses are very good and there is obviously a demand for such a service.
Registration is free, searching is free, and e-mail addresses are kept confidential.
There are spaces to enter unit, with dates, and places, and also a database to list old comrades who you have lost touch with through the mists of time.
I know this site will work and supply an invaluable service to many former service personnel
It obviously needs lots of entries, the more it gets, the better it becomes.
TONY AMIS
Tony Amis, former 1 R Norfolk, has just returned from visiting his daughter in the USA. Thanks to Ben Turner for this information.
OSS OSBORNE
14822805 Walter ‘Oss’ Osborne 1 R Norfolk 1946-56 of Scarborough, has made contact.
Write to him via the Norfolk Section Editor.
JAMES A STEEL
Former 1 E Anglian in Felixstowe James A Steel has made contact from Norway.
After Note: See B&C 100 Jun 03 for a request from Tony Ooi, who wrote in B&C 96 Jun 01, to be placed in contact.
Write to him via the Norfolk Section Editor.
RAYMOND HEWITT BEM 1 E ANGLIAN
Carol Hornsby, Ohio, USAwould like to locate records on her Aunts and her Uncle Raymond Hewitt BEM and served in 1 E Anglian. She asks: ‘Who do I write to in order to get records? I'd like to know what he got the medal for!’ [98 Jun 02]
Carol has a newspaper cutting of him receiving the BEM from Gen Roderick McLeod, GOC Eastern Command.
[99 Dec 02]
If you can help, write to her via the Norfolk Section Editor.

EMPIRE ORWELL
Pete Williams wrote: ‘My late father served in the R Norfolks and sailed to Korea on the Empire Orwell. My Aunt (his sister) saw a film in the cinema (possibly Pathe news) that showed the Norfolks setting off. My dad was apparently in several shots. If you know of this film or how I could get to see it I would be delighted. Also, any links that would show any photos or history of the ship would be great as 50 yrs on this is the only section of my dad's life that we don't know about and if we don’t find out then perhaps it will be lost.’
Webmaster Comment: Try a click here for a photograph - 1951 Empire Orwell 5 Pl B Coy
And click here for June 2002 responses which arrived before B&C 98 Jun 02 was printed!
Click here to read, from B&C 99 Dec 02, of Pete's success in acquiring a copy of the Pathe film.
Click here for how to view, for purchase, Pathe News film of the Empire Orwell and Royal Norfolk Troops boarding for Korea in 1951.

If you can help, write to Pete via the Norfolk Section Editor.

JAMES YOUNG AND COL OSBORNE 1956-57
Paul Young seeks information about his father, James Young and Col Osborne. They were connected with Norfolk ACF 1956-7.
If you can help, write to him via the Norfolk Section Editor.

This appeal is repeated on the 'Did You Know These of The Ninth' page.

Editorial Rule
To qualify for inclusion there is only one rule - something described must have been said to have happened.
The authority is the Editor, British Army Review No 114 Dec 96, `If the facts don`t fit the legend, print the legend’.

Rule Britannia!

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