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1951 B Coy 5 Pl bound for Korea on Empire Orwell   Departure from Pusan 28 Sep 1952   Empire Orwell film and photographs found    Korea Veterans Cpl Jeffries, R Reid and Curly Williams sought by George Gray    Pathe film or photographs of the Empire Orwell wanted   Pathe film archives   Tony Rogers advises of Pathe News of 50 Years Ago on TV in 2002
From B&C 90 Jun 98 - No Criminal Record by Edward Francis 'Ted' Errser.
22413896 Ted of Queensland urgently wishes to contact his old friend, Eric "Sandy" Sandford, with whom he served in 1 Royal Norfolk in Korea 1951-2. Ted was on the Vickers Machine Gun and Sandy on Mortars. They went out on the Empire Orwell.

From B&C 92 Jun 99 - Winkie Fitt and a Norfolk Flyer in Korea by Sgt Gerry Jermy:
To my surprise I was to meet up with the Regiment again in August 1951 when boarding the troopship "Empire Orwell" at Southampton en route to Korea. (Click here for an account of a Reunion in 2001 of the 2 surviving Warrant Officers)

From B&C 93 Dec 99 - The Banded Krait by Yan Moosun aka Tom Styles
There must be many old ‘Far East hands’ who have blood curdling stories of the Empire Orwell, Empire Windrush, - someone from the regiment must have been on the Imperial F*rt when it sank in the Med, - Orduna, Fowey and the like. They surely must be worth the telling!

From B&C 93 Dec 99 - Korean Odyssey 1999 by DJ Jerry Willmott CBE QFSM:
How then do I describe, in a few paragraphs, the happenings and sensations of some ten days spent en route to, from and in Korea, a country which I had last visited so long ago. My last view of Korea had been from the stern of the Empire Orwell as she pulled, all too slowly, out of Pusan, never dreaming that I would ever have the slightest desire to return.

From B&C 97 Dec 01 - Reunion in 2001 of the 2 surviving Warrant Officers by Paul Boxall.
He and Tim Chatting met at the Maid's Head Hotel in Norwich for a drink and natter about the event, fifty years ago to the day, when they had set out for Korea on The Empire Orwell.

5 Pl, B Coy aboard Empire Orwell 1951From B&C 98 Jun 02 GR REID MM, CPL JEFFRIES AND CURLY WILLIAMS
George Gray
, now in Stafford, formerly 5 Pl B Coy, 1 Royal Norfolk, sent a photograph of 5 Pl, B Coy aboard the Empire Orwell in 1951, bound for Korea.
He asks: 'I am trying to trace the following; GR Reid MM, 1st left in 2nd row;  Cpl Jeffries, 2nd on left in 2nd row and Curly Williams, 5th on left in 2nd row.
Since returning from Korea I have only met Pte Waters, 3rd from left in back row.
I am 1st on the right in the 2nd row.
Please e-mail anything you have to the Norfolk Editor.
Maj John Denny wrote, in reply:
Other than George Gray none were listed as members of BKVA as at 1999. I am not sure if a later list was published. Why not try a notice on 'Service Pals'. Teletext, Channel Four.

From B&C 98 Jun 02 Obituary for Eric Charles Stollery died 24 Dec 2001 aged 71. Eric departed from Pusan with 1 R Norfolk aboard the HT Empire Orwell on 28 Sep 1952 and remained on the ship when the Bn disembarked at Hong Kong.

From B&C 98 Jun 02 Pathe film or photographs of the Empire Orwell wanted
From B&C 99 Dec 02 Pete Williams wrote, further to his appeal in B&C 98 Jun 02:
My late father left the army as a LCpl. The Pathe News film ‘Norfolks off to Korea’ has been located. My Dad is there three times with a close up of him drinking tea on the dock! I have been told the copy I obtained would be a ‘one-off’. If anyone is trying to trace the film, it is ‘Canister 51/71’ with the above title.

From B&C 98 Jun 02 Photographs of the Empire Orwell wanted
Terry L Hardy
wrote: I was National Service RAMC 1954 - 1956 serving at British Military Hospital Hong Kong.
I am writing a biography and would like any info or a nice photo of HMT Empire Orwell.
I sailed from Hong Kong February 1956 for Southampton.  Anyone out there who was on that voyage?
In HK for a year, I have some 200 photos of the Colony. Anyone interested should contact me on 01929 481197 or TLHC@compuserve.com
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In B&C 98 Jun 02 was a request for Pathe film or photographs of the Empire Orwell and above, in B&C 99 Dec 02, was another request for a photograph.
Our stalwart on all matters Hong Kong, Maj John Denny, sent the displacement weight - 18,036 tons - and said: 'I have a pic copied from a postcard (bought on the ship) which I can prise out of my album and loan, unless you get a better offer.'
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HMT Empire OrwellOur good Suffolk friend, Tony Rogers, provided a picture, right, and some information.
'I was looking at your excellent page on the internet and saw the request for Pathe newsreel film of The Empire Orwell so looked up their archive site and found that there is a short section of film of the Empire Orwell dated 1951 and titled 'The Royal Norfolk's off to Korea'.
The code is PM1471 01-29-15 and running time 1.30.  Sadly they say that at the moment they are unable to deal with requests from the public, but surely The Royal Norfolk Regiment does not come under this category?  At least it may be worth a telephone call.'
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Our erudite historian extraordinaire on matters Korea and Hong Kong, Jerry Willmott, sent his berthing card and a photograph with a quote from a press cutting, saying: 'I do not have a complete picture but here is a (not particularly good) photograph of part of the ship. If you persevere, who knows, you may collect enough “sections” to assemble a complete photograph.'
Mrs Elizabeth Waring, Southampton NAAFI and Ptes Derrick Potter (19) of Maulden, Bedfordshire and Peter Slinn (19) from Ipswich (nearest camera)”
The attached article stated: 'A paddle portable post-box, a willing quayside helper, and these Privates of The 1st Bn, Royal Norfolk Regt get their last-minute letters away from The Troopship Empire Orwell, taking them from Southampton to Korea. On the quayside is Mrs Elizabeth Waring of The Southampton NAAFI The soldiers are Privates Derrick Potter (19) of Maulden, Bedfordshire and Peter Slinn (19) from Ipswich (nearest camera)'.
Click here for a picture of Peter Slinn in Norwich at the Regimental Dinner Sep 01

Peter Slinn 1951

Peter Slinn 1951

Peter Slinn 2001

Peter Slinn 2001

'The second picture is yet another piece of historic trivia from my past, my personal berthing card for the aforementioned “Cruise”.
“F” deck was well below the water line and pretty sordid, particularly when the seas became a little “choppy”.
Mind you, it wasn’t all bad as on these occasions, there were few queues on the mess deck and unlimited rations for those privileged few for whom the sea held no vertiginous terror.'

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Gentlemen - thanks. These responses arrived even before the paper copy of B&C 98 Jun 02 was printed!

Our good Suffolk friend, Tony Rogers, wrote, in Sep 02:‘Those who have a satellite dish can tune into Simply Nostalgia Channel 580 (digital). Each night from 1945 to 2230 they show a scrapbook of items followed by a programme about the 1950s. At 2100 hrs each night the Pathe newsreel of the week 50 years ago is shown. There is the possibility that the sequence showing the Royal Norfolks would be included in these.’
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PATHE FILM ARCHIVES
Concerning the appeal for Pathe News film, at www.britishpathe.com are Pathe News films from 1896 -1970; eg 1919 King presents new colours to the Norfolks; 1934 2 Norfolk Troop the Colour; 1951 Royal Norfolk Troops board troopships bound for Korea; 1955 Anthony Eden at Colchester 'presents large wooden spoon to Sergeant George for being the worst shot in the Regiment'; 1953 Dorsets and Royal Norfolks in Hong Kong; 1955 Royal Norfolks arrive Nicosia. Still photograph clips may be viewed free. High Resolution clips for Web Publishing are £100 each and High Resolution clips for PowerPoint presentations are £50 each. Videos may be purchased: single stories £18 each, up to 7 stories £75 and 8 or more stories £10 each, all inclusive of VAT. Postage and Packing is an additional £2.25. Just send in a cheque for the correct amount along with a list of the Film IDs and Titles (eg 1162.06 "The Big Apple") and they will send you your VHS within 10 working days by Registered Post. VHS Dept, New Pathe House, 57 Jamestown Road, London NW1 7XX.
(Tip: search the Pathe site by typing "Norfolk Regiment" in inverted commas.  Ed.)

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Boarding the Empire Orwell 1951

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